what a mess!some people are ready to sell the tribe for their own narrow interest!there is nothing call Collo are supporting SPLM,who told them Collo are for SPLM,DC.NCP,or any other political party?joing a party is an individual tendency not a group decision,so u power seekers stop using the name of mighty tribe in fishing for narrow interests.no body has right to speak on behalf of Collo except the RETH and on social affairs not political!.I really laughed when I read that William Ezikial has become a community leader!!!on what basis?another fellow is said to be representing youth!somebody who had never participated in youth activities in his life,just to appear as an office manager of one of the beneficiaries of the so called Collo rally behind kiir and SPLM!anybody has right to support whoever he likes but not in the name of our tribe.what a humilation even the president who they suppose to support did not show up,just sent a light politician like Ann Itto to address represensetives of a giant tribe like ours!what a shame?

Dr. Olaw, I think it is not a shame for Kiir to delegate someone from his cabinets to go and represent the party's interest. I don’t see your main points or arguments here, why you opposed the expression of Collo community, they are not promoting themselves/ or their community, they are trying to figure out their political issues! I think it is very healthy meeting. Any community has rights to talk and reflect either negatives or positives for what they have been through during the war. How can you predict your future, if you don’t recall the past and your present! Determination of the future is depend on what you been through in the past and your present. It is good for them to sit and talk about it. Why they fought in the first place, they lost members of their community during the conflict! So you basically saying that, this bunches of losers, who have no political objectives, can just take that right away from them because we Southerners or because we are Sudanese? That isn’t the meaning of live! It is historical moment and history is not for grant, you have to work for it or you can lose it easily because you didn’t work for it in the first place. Don’t preach the negative here; you have to appreciate their deed, not always to reward people with negative views like yours. People have rights to know who they are before, what is the world? I can be reach by/ wreech@gmail.com
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Yes, what Dr. Olaw said is logic, legal and responsible for soem reasons. First, Collo is not a political party, but it is a community composed of people who have no busines with political business. Therefore, any political associate must not use name 'COLLO'.
To make it clear to you, there are SPLM, SPLM-DC, SSIM supporters and name them as you can. So if you say Collo people support this and that party, you are being bias enough because not all Collo people give their support to different parties and others do not know anything about parties.
Please stop fooling people.

Dear William, I think you confused bit, you said Collo community, isn’t associate with politics group. Then, here is my question, what is politics? Politics is about issues, people, and community at large, that what politics about. Your second point, people who don’t know any objectives of any political party, well it is our responsibility as community to educate them for differences. I’m not from this community, but I like their idea. Voting is about consent. Okay, if some people don’t know, where the SPLA, DC, NCP, and SUNA stand in political arena, than what issues are they going to vote for? That’s the point, but I gave you credits for that point. There are millions of people across South, who still doesn’t know why they will vote for this party and why not that party, all across communities. But it is our failures include you, your friend and me too. But this is the different between me and both of you, you are against this meeting where the community will sit and educate themselves for issues. I don’t want to give you that line, now I came to conclusion that I’m not fooling people but you are the one on spot who want to fool the nations. Thank you

My friend Anok your argument does n't stand on legs,my main point is NOTHING CALL COLLO COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT A SINGLE PARTY!who said SPLM of Kiir is synonymous to people's struggle and represents the their hope?that is optional and depends on individuals judgment.Lets talk logic leave this naive missionary defence.

Thank you Dr.Olaw.for your respond to a point of clearification thats our community name is not to be use to support any political party.its a individual rights to support the party he/her as the model to serve and achive the dream and stability in Southern Sudan for better future.for those who using (COLLO)name .they have to use their own name what ever they gone called for their own intrest or support.

Dear reader, I really wonder if somebody on his/her right mind can support chaotic, directionless, and inconsistent thing like that some people GOSS! I would rather call the thing GHOST. Do you remember those caught red handed with $2 millions cash at Heathrow air in UK, The money that could have fed the famished people in Warrap, or dressed the naked in Kirr's home? And Do you know why is Kirr keeping low profile on taking drastic action against the looters public funds? If you don't know the answer, I tell, Kirr is "the Ali Baba and the rest are his forty men." Those bunch of Collo cowards mustered in Juba speak on behalf of bellies only not more or less.

For the respect of your responses, I’m still not convince where you stand on the original article. I know there is corruption going on in kiir’s administration, but let’s look this way. Is the South Sudan is the self governing now? To me, I don’t see it as a government yet. That why I give my support to the communities and to them, the current party in power in order to finish the job. We are still in mess guys, our aim now is not about money, get it very clear or you have no vision of nationalism. But when we become self governing, then we will see who will be capable to manage the people and their resources. Second we had been with Arabs for more than 300 years of looting our resources and lack of equality of human kind in the whole country. So why don’t we wait now! They are southerners and I’m not supporting the ideas of corruption, but it is better for Southerners to loot than being looted by the Arabs. Corruption is not a big deal now to me, “that my sentimental”, and if that what SPLA-DC is about, they will lost. It is not big issue; the big issue is the Nationalism, a party that will stand with people. Some politician cross the hard line, when the SPLM-DC Chairman, compare the session of south with suicide, wow, does he had a point? Many supporters of the SPLM-DC are very concern with corruption issues, but what about when Dr. Lam was a Minister of foreigner affair, he employed 15 members of his family. That’s a corruption too; corruption is not only about money so Dr. Lam is not immune from corruption. Thirdly, they goals and objectives of the SPLM_DC are not broader enough. That one element of corruption isn’t enough to convince the masses of South Sudan or rest of people around the world. And be honest here, I don’t like corruption, it is not a theme of our fight, the big issue is the party which not repeat the same mistake of 1972, agreement. Despite the SPLM corruption, Southerners believe, they have 80 percent to lead the SOUTH to self determination, and the SPLM-DC, Southerners have 80 percent if they success to reverse this South self determination in to unification. The only cure for corruption is the constitution, but we don’t have any constitution right now. We still as a party of Khartoum government, we are still a binding by their constitutions until the 2011 referendum. I feel bad sometime when I read the article of our PhD holders of Southerners. Imagine, someone went to that high level, and they don’t comprehend the issues, they have no transparences of ideas, they don’t visualized, what kind of education is that? What kinds of institutions in this world which prepare them for that PhD? What is being corrupted now in the South Sudan at this is moment, when we have no self-government, when we have no legal powers on our resources yet and when we still have problem of security in the region. Well many of you can say, it is the failure of the SPLA to provide the security. But Let me tell you this, if the SPLA conduct the disarming in south and tomorrow you will see same people with guns, where do they come from? You know the sources; the same enemy we still dealing with, can arm them again. But if we have self government, no one will arm those people again. That how the transparencies of ideas look like PhD holders, disarming is not a problem, but sources of guns supplies are the problem. Let’s stop accusing one other, we are not free yet. We can’t tear ourselves parts for minors’ issues; corruption isn’t big element, because we have none right now. Donors money, or proportion of oil money we get from the north, that not really money. How to control the resources, self governing, constructive of constitutions, and so on, are they really issues, but we are not there yet! Let’s get there first! You guys have to think behind the picture, or mobilize uneducated ones in southern Sudan to vote for Dr. Lam! Thank you

ANOK, first let me help you to understand the definition of word 'POLITICS' which is described by political thinkers as 'POWER-STRUCTURE OF RELATION OR ABILITY TO ACHIEVE A DESIRE' and so on.

BUT WHO ARE THE ACTORS IN POLITICS? GOVERNED OR GOVERNORS?

ANOK, I hope you know that by yourself before any peron impart you with knowledge that govenors are the actors in politics not the governed or subjects.

Now if we agree on that definition, then we have to find out how politicians veiw the world. Here again we find out that there is a variety in opinions on how world should be governed. Here emerge various ideologies. Political parties have different philosophies about how to govern the world or country. Therefore, the supporters of political parties associate themselves with different parties when they believe such parties match their point of views. While other people are neutral or in other word they do not take part in any party and that why I told you DO NOT USE WORD COLLO PEOPLE SUPPORT SPLM.

Now let come to your negative support and your call to Collo people to support SPLM.
ANOK, you said the GOSS is not yet a government. That is your personal problem because it show that you do not understand a function of government. I'm very concern and worry if all Collo members of SPLM think in a way you think.If so, your unlimited and unconditional support to SPLM put more harm to Collo people.

ANOK, Gvernment is a body that manage an affairs of any community which you are now denying.

Now you support Salva Kiir and talk admit that corruption does exists in south.That is true.

But I affirm to you that corruption is no a big problem, No, no and BIG NO. It is not about corruption but about something so HORRIBLE,IMMORAL, INHUMAN, EVIL AND BARBARIC being committed by you and your GOSS/SPLM.

WHO Burndown the villages of Shulluk in Anakhdar, Abanimo Pigi and slaughtered our old men/women, blind, disables and handicap? It is your government and you as well. These are problems why Kiir must be voted out to avoid other five year killing of our people and vandalism of villages.

ANOK, we vote for person because of his/her election programs. What will Kiir do than contiuning his evil culture of killing his subjects? How can we southerners allow to be led again by incompentent, killer and corrupt leader as Kiir since we all know what happen during his leadership?

It could have been better if other person from SPLM party whom southerners do not know what he/she might do than KIIR whom we know as killer.

Let me conclude by saying this. IF DR. LAM AKOL IS USING CORRUPTION during his compaign, that is not a real problem as you said it. But Dr.Lam Akol should focus on tribalism growing in south under KIIR leadership plus corruption, nepotism, despotism and incompetency. All these evil problems under Kiir leadership are the AIDS in our community which must be cured by electing true leader like Dr. Lam Akol

I really do n't know how to make u understand my point?!!!all this long essay u h've written is your version of evaluating things which gives room for argument and I shall come to that.but main issue is USING THE NAME OF A TRIBE IN POLITICAL GAME.exactly like what NCP does when it talks of tribe X giving BAIAA (oath of allegiance )to it!!!
coming to your points I would like to inform you that south Sudan is indeed a self-governing entity by now with its Army,legislative,judiciary and executive authorities.there is no interference in any single affair in south Sudan.Who told u there is no constitution in south that why there are no institutions to fight corruption?my frnd u seem to be living in the moon.the institutions are there the problem is the WILL.Try to answer my main point and not dodging around.I personally did not say am for DC OR ANY OTHER POLITICAL PARTY .because i have my own reasons,but no body should indulge the whole tribe into cheap power seek

Dear William, I agreed with all of your points.My main arguement, isnt that I'm defending the SPLA position, but I'm defending the ideal, what is the 'NATIONS"? I know there are millions of problems as William listed, but this not the time to solve them, I'm still resist brothers.To the respect to Dr.Olaw,I thank you for engeering this debate. To all readers, lets look behind the issues we are facing now. Here is my question, WHAT CAN WE CHANGE AT THIS MOMENT IN THE SOUTH OR ANY POLITICIAN IN TO SOUTH, TO BRING WHEN WE STILL UNDER THE KHARTOUM GOVERNMENT'S POWER? that all my concern brothers and sisters! Thank you all for your positive arguement.

any body thinking that Collo will vote for SPLM is just dreaming, and any one is calling Collo to voet for Kiir he is animy by himself.

Thank you Anok for accepting such mortal problem exist.

To answer your question. Heroes do not emerge from nothing, but they do emerge when there are difficult time. That time, people suffer and desperatly implore for redemption of their circumstances or situations. When young men and women like you sacrifice or labor hardly for sake of others, they eventually emerge as heroes. Anok, this is a time not to ask what to do as one of US former president said ask not what will your country do for you, but ask what will you do for your country. WHY WILL WE DO TO STOP KILLING OF SOUTHERNERS AGAINST EACH OTHER IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US to take a personal initiative and be a voice for defendless southerners and COLLO in particular. We must not stand idly, but to find a way to eradicate those problems which requires individual and collective efforts.
Who cause sufferings to poor people or might be behind the suffering of people must be removed or be sued internationally and this is what will happened in future. Killers must end up in international detentions as those of Liberia and Serbia believe me or not.

If we do not want to sue them legally, at least let vote them out of office. If anyone among us vote for Salva Kiir, he or she did that because of personal interest. In doing so, he or she has to be sure that he/she have for Kiir to continue the implementation of dictoatorship, tribalism. vandalism and confiscation of other people land and this is what Dr. Adowk had realized finanlly in his last article last year.
Power of Arabs over Africans is there because Arab pick up weak people to rule us through them. Shulluk is victim because of Arab policy by recruiting other tribes in south because we keep the border abd therefore become the first target. Lam Akol is not a bad person as many of you, but decoration occur to keep us out from public responsility so that other century ofsuffering of our people will be added.
We must this time chose a true leader and Arabs have realized that to happen that why we have a chance for our leaders to rule.
Remember Nelson Mandela was called terrorist and kept in prison for decades. He was almost killed. WHY? Because he possesses torch for south African people to see and that torch was not needed that time. But God spared his life to ow a boat of his nation and you see today his statute is erected in front of common house of UK not Queen Elizabeth who called him terrorist. That is the same thing happening to Shulluk politicians who were denied from ruling their nation.
SPEK OUT, SPEAK UP FOR CHANGE IN SOUTH SUDAN SO THAT WE MUST NOT AGAIN SUFFERN FOR OTHER CENTURIES.
In short, I do not know Dr. Lam personally or Kiir, but beacuse of what happen under Kiir to southerners, we should vote for a right person to get us out from this mortal life in south and to block AJALLAB FROM REOPPRESSING US .

أخي / إنوك
اولاً : قول بإن مجتمع شلو في جوبا يؤيدون سلفاكير هذا يدعو الي كثير من التساؤلات مثل هل هذا الدعم وتأييد من قبل جميع أبناء شلو في جوبا وبمباركتهم جمعياً ام التأييد والمساندة لسلفاكير من ابناء شلو الأعضاء في الحركة الشعبية للتحرير السودان ؟ فإذا كان الإجابة جميع أبناء شلو في جوبا فهذا كذب بدليل رفض بعض هولاء لهذا التأييد وهم أعضاء مجتمع شلو في جوبا وإن كان المؤيديين لرئيس الحركة الشعبية هم ابناء شلو في الحزب فهذا حقهم وشأنهم فكيف يتحدثون بإسم قبيلة ؟ ومن فوضهم؟ لذا كان ينبغي علي هولاء تدقيق في تعريف انفسهم

ثانياً : إذا قام مؤيدي وانصار د.لام اكول من ابناء شلو المقيمين في جوبا بتنظيم حملة إنتخابية له في جوبا واكدوا فيه ان قبيلة شلو يؤيد ويدعم دكتور لام اكول في انتخابات ماذا سيقول امثال وليم إذكيل وبانقوت اموم وغيرهم الذين ايدوا سلفاكير بإسم القبيلة؟ هنا يطرح سؤال مهم اي قبيلة شلو يمثله كل جانب وهل شلو قبيلتين ام ماذا ؟

ثالثاً : من اجل كل ذلك يجب إبعاد قبيلة في الحراك السياسي ومن اراد إستفادة من إمتيازات وغنائم الحركة الشعبية فليبحث عن وسيلة اخري غير قبيلة شلو

Am a resident of JUBA. i don't see any reason why the vast interest of COLLO residence in JUBA being sold cheaply by the so called community leaders. In fact i strongly object to the use of community name in tribal politics as some have stated.The name COLLO is scared to us and we are proud to be the heir of that generation.

Veto, I didnt get what you intented to say, when you said the vast interest of Collo Communtity had been sold cheaply, what is the explanation for that? By supporting the SPLA, is that what you refer to Collo community's image had been sold cheap by their leaders? you know my dear, politic is not about negative, there is live after politics! I hate when people just pick up negative thing about SPLA and forget where we were recently? you wouldnt there be in Juba if it wasnt about SPLA. we should learn alot, and because of that, we mixed the issues. The big issue now is about self determination, isnt about money, where people just want to dump important issues, and cause bitterness among themselve!

If human establishes religious, social and political organizations to manage, defend, protect, develop,serve and to care, SPLM/A was established to destroy, to kill, to confiscate, to dictate, to loot, to divide and to degrade.
"SPLA's first bullet will be fired at the separatists", said the leader of SPLM/A Dr. John Garang. As a result, Gai Tut, Abdallah Chol and many others were murdered or assassinated. SSIM that called for South Sudan independence were renamed with SPLM that called for New Sudan.

During the war, SPLM/A favored single tribe. Many areas were called 'liberated areas' to allow international organizations to pour billion dollar support to single tribe in so called liberated areas. In addition, cognitive name 'LOST BOY' was created and thousands of boys from single tribe were sent to western world.
After the war, power was allocated to single tribe and few from tribe are employed as nominal servants to serve their masters. After the war, southsudannation policy is being implemented by killing other tribe and forcing them out from their ancestral land for demographic change that favor one tribe. After the war, the whole budget of south is divided among single tribe and gave some money to nominal servants to make them submisive to SPLM. After the war, SPLM has conceded from notion of New Sudan by refusing to contest against Bashier rather than giving chance to other northern Yaser Arman. What about million Southerners killed for notion of New Sudan. After the war, SPLA continue to be real enemy to our civilians in South.
Then how can one of us be proud of destroying entity as SPLM/GOSS?

Any part of land on earth is suitable for living. But other countries like Australia, America, Canada, Europe, Japan and many others are assumed better for living not because God create them so, but because their leaders strive to make those states good for living.
It is shameful for many of us who steal public money from south Sudan and buy expensive houses in those countries. I can be proud to walk my visitor around my house built on my ancestral land. I will be proud to show a visitor my house because it is my hands that built that beautiful land. But if I show a visitor my house in Australia, or in other country, it make me be ashame and look like one of corrupt leaders running away with public money from my original country.
My Collo men, if we are silence not to express ourselves about what is going on in our land because of money we get from GOSS and use them abroad, we are guilty.
No one can milk a cow before it give birth to calf. It is therefore not a time to enjoy while our own people are still suffering. It is a time to labor and when peace and real stability ripe in our land, then we will harvest the result of our labor.
Struggle up to the end to stabilize our land first. Do not make yourself be look at as refugee or corrupt leader in other people land.
Be a free man or woman.

Dear friend, I don’t know how to convince you for argument? But let me remind you this, the mission why we fought with the north isn’t yet finished. It’s good that you mentioned, the prosperity and development of Western World Nations-States, but think first, how did they come to that level! First of all, smart people target THE MOST IMPORTANT issues! The most issue now in our land is the secession not the distribution of money. You talk about public money being corrupt by few people. If you are smart guy, look where/ the Southerners get/or where the sources of these funds come from? South Sudan gets this money from the North. It can be understood in full context of intellectuality that we are still under the instruction of another Government. I refute your notion that your people or how call them, have to forsake the SPLA because there is a corruption. To me, it is a mentally defeated! You are not capable of solving the issues that what it means my dear, because education isn’t just to have a degree. You have to know how to work the ideas out, how others nation-states achieve the good development. Development is a knowledge, and knowledge is rationalization, mean people think and act accordingly. What was the mission of the SPLA in the first place? They take arms and fought against the Khartoum government, it was about corruption, if you don’t know. Here is my point, corruption is a fixable thing you don’t have to leave it and just go and blame other for it. We will fix this when we have our own government. Do you think if you support the NCP or another party, they will save your community from corruption? In Juba, before the SPLA, there were no good roads and good toilets in past, But for you, what the SPLA doing now is a big problem and is better for you to compare them with evils thing and the one before that wasn’t bad guy? If you know these Nation-States you had mentioned, they were not just happened to be rich or developed without any general will or without rationalization. Everything take time, corruption is there in South Sudan, but its not big issue for us at this time. This notion of corruption is distraction; some parties are encouraging this in order to ignite the civil war in the South Sudan again. I hate it and I hate those who rally behind this stupid idea. You said, SPLA‘s stratification is built/ form by one tribe. In that sense itself, you are a big liar. Take look carefully before you post your subjective. SPLA is not about Dinka. It is failing ideology as a mind set for some tribes who always accuse Dinka and running away from solving problems. Your mind set about Dinka, telling us now that SPLA is comprised by Dinka. But as Southerner Sudanese like you, its insult not even liars. Look, what you said and take a look for few positions I will highlight for you and community. What can you say about General Secretary of SPLA position, and his two deputies? What can say about the SPLA deputy chairman position, and what you say about parliamentary speaker’s position, and many positions? Are you telling us or your community that these positions are hold by Dinkas? It is the facts not politics, Dinkas are majority; it is a facts, not politics, If you want to know the politics, get to know how its work not its ideology. And how it works is that, know the truth. Being majority in other way of politics is not a factor, but it is factor when some politicians don’t know how to play that cards. Always politics of SPLA-DC is about dinkas, about corruption and majority had occupied the high positions. Come on, Dr. Lam was once Sudanese foreigner affair minister, and he was elected by the SPLA. If you guys want successful campaign in South Sudan, please refrain yourself of using DINKA AS a problem in the South Sudan. Politics is about attraction, but with narrow mind of SPLA-DC, who the chairman himself is anti-Dinkas, it will be hard for him to accomplish his political goals in south Sudan. SPLA- DC has to attract some Dinkas to their political spectrum too. But not foolish Dinkas like Malual Madut; he has no political ground anymore among Dinkas. So if SPLA-DC chose people like that, they automatically chose a failure. Anyway Dr. Lam, will still have to pay his bills, but not to rule the south Sudan. SPLA-DC is form by people who completely hate others tribes, especially they hate Dinka, but they think, they will win in the South Sudan! And accusing others for corruptions while Dr. Lam was recently with the SPLM, but because of his selfness, hatred toward Dinkas, he misrepresents the SPLM issues worldwide that why he was removed in that position. SPLM is not for Dinkas, and if one misused its policies thinking that, he is failing Dinkas like Dr. Lam did, damn no, you are failing the SPLM/ Southerners in general not Dinkas

it is a very interesting arguments where some commentators are digreeing from the real subject or contradicting themselves.all I can say here is that things that are unusual will attract attention. so the issue here is the myth of tribe in politics.
Today we have a serious political, social and economic challenges, because the primary social unit of the social structure in South is the tribe. In this sense, tribalism has been playing a negative role in the political life since people begin to used it as a means to political end.

we the people of south sudan suppose to learn from our past. During the liberation struggle, some tribes aligned with the North against SPLA/M. To them the war was seen primarily as an opportunity for financials and political gain. the North with its different political systems was more than willing to pay the tribes, in money, and weapons to secure their support.
By the end of the war and in this interim period, these tribes have emerged as powerful enough to actively influence the political system in the South and no one knows if it happens that the war break out suddenly where they will stand?
In a democratic society, people vote for other people to represent them at different levels of the government.they make a choice about who they want to do a particular job be a president, governor or MPs without being intimidated or threaten.
However, when supporters declare their affirmation to support certain candidate or candidates in election based on tribal line and produce slogans and jingles is what create tensions, conflict and triticism.

Tribal role in the political system facilitates external interference in political affairs and cause serious social social tensions as it is happening in the south these days. therefore, for us to build a healthy, self-satisfied, harmonious and a dynamic nation that is better equipped to take its place in an increasingly internationalized world, we need to argue our politicians to put a way the tribal card in politic. we need to break tribal power in politic and instil state's sovereignty. more importantly, we need to play a persistent efforts to create bridges of trust that can dissolve the widespread tribal animosity in the South. In doing so, a sense of national identity will emerge that will be based on a life style embracing diversity.

Mr.Okuch, I’m not what you think, but the truth. Your problem is that, you closed your mind about the SPLM/A. You don’t care to know their deed, either negative or positive. Why do you limit your knowledge! What I mean, your bitterness about SPLM/A has blinded you completely. SPLM/A isn’t all about negatives, but hard for you to transform your ideas now to look carefully what the SPLM/A doing in the South. SPLM/A have some services that they delivery to the communities, including your community too. These services are including representatives. Don’t compare the SPLA/M with Iraq’s former government of Saddam! SPLM/A was in war, and in any war, there is no justices at all. It is very common to any nation-state in war, they committee crimes, not only the SPLM/A moment, because war is rage. You see I’m trying to give an idea here; you stick with the past, which will not bring change to your community and to the South Sudan in general. You are someone working backward; your aim is to pull people back. History is about tomorrow, if you are aware about it which I know you are better than this argument. Don’t let your sentiments blinded you. You set your mind like device, SPLM/A was not in war with your community, but if anything happen which I’m not personal on denial, crimes and killing and things like that were not just happened. You have to look both sides. You know the justices, and to apply the justices, don’t take one side. You mentioned about Dr. Garang and you use his words on your context. Well my own analysis on that notes is that agreement is an agreement, but when it happened one side has to dishonest that binding without any objectives. Than what Garang mean by first bullet to the separatists was the enemy. Enemy has no color, it doesn’t matter, if he/she from the south or north. During the war, there were many tribes turn against the SPLM/A, especial in your areas and now another problem is about money again! Where ever you reside in western world, did you ever see civilian attacking police, with knife or gun, and the police will just walk away, because he/she is civilian? When your community was against the SPLM/A, mission by attacking the SPLA forces during the war, you telling me the SPLA will not response to that attacks, because your people are civilians? Well SPLM/A leadership were governed by human, so walk away from that notions. Killing is not morality to any society in the world, there is no random killing, it happens with many reasons. So don’t credit yourself for that, your people/ community was wrong. On the other hand, being under social contract doesn’t mean, any government can’t take action against those who agitate peace in any free society leave alone our society in mess. I don’t blame the SPLA/M of taking action against those who attack them.

ANOK, you put it vividly described yourself as SPLA prosecutor. You said my area was against SPLA during the war that why SPLA continues vandalizing and exterminating Collo people in Anakdar, Abinimo and Pigi ETC. You prove it right; therefore, I'm plaintiff and you are defendant ANOK.
Before I go ahead, let me be honest with you. Never, never and never try to think your are persuading me with your immoral defend of SPLM/A. No you have no logic or wisdom to impart me with anything. Your tongue is fruitless like tree of desert. You are fighting with reality and trying to free yourself from crimes you and your party have committed. But you will never exit from your guilt without trail. i'm info teller and you are denier.
You mentioned that war causes crimes to human. That is true. But there are laws call 'laws of war'. Any allegation that there is violation of these laws, those found guilty were tried before court. Crime against humanity included, sexual abuse, deportation of residents of villages, counties, towns, vandalism, killing of captured prisoners, confication of possessions etc which your organization (SPLM) did that.
In Darfur, president Basher is wanted to stand trial because he is a president of state.
Now you are trying negatively to tell people to drop charges against your evil organization while allowing ICC to prosecute Basheir. Why is it plausible to arrest Basher and implausible to talk about SPLM/A or GOSS crimes?
Your argument that I should not be looking back is wrong. Past make us to do future thing consistently rather than inconsisten.
ANOK, you and your party leaders are liars. You say something today and say something different tomorrow. Salva Kiir said many times in marginalized areas whenver he visits that he will urge southerners to vote for unity and he will vote for unity as well, but when he is in South he tells southerners that seapartion is first thing for SPLM party.
ANOK, LET continue dialogue. But I assured you that you and your leaders will never and never escape from sword of justices. We will hunt you down wherever you hide like war criminals such as Saddam Hassuein, Charles Taylor, those in Serbia because you violated laws of war. During the war, you killed southerners leaders who called for independence of South and many evil things against our civilians. After the war your oragnization allied with tribe to kill other tribe such as those killed in Anakhdar.
Play again with your tail till justice surpress you.

Okuch, let me highlight you of how the problem of the SPLM/A started. In the beginning of our moment, our intellects from the south who lead the moment had no draft or constitutions of protections, both the civilian and military like. So in the course of the war, thing mess up, because part of it which was ignited the problem of looting or killing was also base on cultural perspective, lack of education and social economic as well, had big impact on war especially on soldiers. For instance, soldier happened to be somewhere in part of south, who don’t speak ethnic language of that community, and who happened to have no education background, and who happened to have no economic stability, and he/she doesn’t know what is humans rights? Do you expect that soldier will follow the ethnical morality in that environment? No, I don’t think so. It is not one community who experience this incident; it is all over southern Sudan. The SPLA by then was composed by many tribes with different background, so don’t take it as it happened to your own community or it was committed by one tribe, it happened to others too. For me, I cannot point these problems to the SPLA party alone. It is our problems including those who just break away from the SPLA party. When did we form this so call multi parties in the south? They were just form when the civil war stops. Don’t just accuse the SPLA administration for this mess. The SPLM-DC has a big part in this mess too and plus many others parties leaders who just break away, including Dr. Lam, because he was among high commanders by that time. On that notion of crimes being committed by the SPLA, you are wrong. Not only the SPLA, many people have involved directly and indirectly including people from your areas, they did the same thing to others people or others community. We fail as southerners in general when we started the war without a clear manifesto about war. So don’t bring your failure and failure of your people and load them to one party. Yes SPLA was in charge, you will say that, but the mission of the SPLA was for all of us as southerners. We all have part on it, either you participate or not, was not for one party. If I gave you one example, the conflict of 1991 when Dr. Lam and Dr. Machar break away the SPLA, and start killing civilians’ in Bor areas, was it a problem of the SPLA? What do you think about that? So if we start to hold people accountable as you mentioned, than your part lead or whoever you supporting will be indicted for that too! I want you to start from your own area, make your own independent investigation, ask your leaders, what happen, why this mess happened! The big problem why there are so many atrocities during war was that we didn’t create the manifesto. There is no smoke without a fire. Part of this problem, your community has involved, but when people fail always to recognize their problems, it doesn’t help the situation it makes it worse. You have to acknowledge the role of your leaders, is there any impact had cause to the SPLA or not? One of the lunatic, between the SPLA soldiers and civilian is when the civilian ambush the SPLA soldier and they don’t think for the outcome or consequences! And you guys sitting in western world and shout it out that your people are murder by the SPLA. You are wrong, don’t defend something you have no clue simply you were born there, but you don’t know what they have done to the SPLA too.

Your justifications that, “our intellects in the movement had no draft or constitutions of protections, both the civilian and military like” is vague because the purpose for war was by itself a constitution that calls to fight for sake of our liberties. Do you know what liberty is? If yes then you answer yourself? In other word, we wage war not to kill ourselves than protecting ourselves which enemy did not grant.
“Lack of education and social economic as well, had big impact on war especially on soldiers” is not stimulant that engendered notion of killing a southerners by their own soldier. To fail your negative argument, Collo warriors who fought series of invaders were illiterates. They were not rich but poor because they live by fishing, hunting and farming. How you interpret this? If you do not see logic here, other people do understand that happen. Stop here! You have no wisdom and logic as I mentioned before.

Concerning your saying that, “it is not one community who experience this incident; it is all over southern Sudan”, that is true. But who suppose to administer or discipline the SPLA? Answer is Dr. John and his aides are morally responsible to make any accountable for his/her act. Do you persuade the readers that soldiers who murdered civilians or civilians who ambush SPLA soldier were tried before court? If yes in which court, when and who? You did not provide the readers with specific judgment conducted by your party leader rather than being very general. Stop generalization here!
For your saying that, “not only the SPLA, many people have involved directly and indirectly including people from your areas, they did the same thing to others people or others community”, I found it very general too. I talked about specific crimes committed by your party such as killing of Gai Tut, Abdallah Chol during the war and currently policy of SPLM/GOSS of encouraging tribalism. However, you keep saying, YOUR COMMUNITY AND AREA. Do not talk about community rather than responsible government (SPLM/GOSS) who is in charge of administration of South.
I accept the crimes committed during 1991 split of SPLM/A. But as you said that is no smoke without fire. The reason is treason of SPLM by deleting self-determination or notion of separation that was replaced with NEW SUDAN VISION and lack of democratic management of the SPLM. Call these reasons as causes to the consequences of Bor incident and others. Today, you and your leader who urged millions of southerners to die for new Sudan are stuck in Juba for money and power. That is other treason this time against the people of marginalized areas and southerners.
Please use specific events because we are debating on tangible issues not something illusionary.
Let continue debating.

I want to remind ourselves on what I mentioned above that Salva Kiir and his party have betrayed the people of marginalized areas because of power and money in Juba. Those people are left vulnerable to NCP because Salva Kiir has disowned them. Now they begin defecting or cooperating with NCP because they are powerless.
Please see the warning posted at the Sudan tribune website. Kiir now is wraned by SPLM party in Nubia mountain for potential split of SPLM.
Millions of Southerners died because of NEW SUDAN VISION and now people of the marginalized areas are abandoned by SPLM without implementation of new Sudan vison. That is derisive.